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Land's Critique of Bostrom's Orthogonality

And why we disagree with all of it!
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is back for a follow-up discussion all about Orthogonality!

In this episode we go deeper into both of the Nick’s, Land and Bostrom, positions; trying to tease out all the threads and follow them where they lead.

My favorite part of this episode is the discussion of Konsciousness, but I’ll leave it at that and let Mikey do the talking!

We discuss this piece from Less Wrong a bit, and this piece from the

substack, as well as reading the Against Orthogonality piece in Xenosystems.

The episode ends with us asking whether or not it would be appropriate to ascribe Human values to something from the Outside, such as Cthulhu. We think not. Why, then, do so many people seem comfortable assigning Human Values to A.I.?

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